Recently, Robert Frank had a good piece in his WSJ blog outlining how the private jet industry is coming to the defense of its customers. Prince & Associates in January conducted for Elite Traveler some extensive research with private jet owners, and a couple of the key findings showed they aren't giving up their jets. They earned their money themselves, therefore they have no guilt about spending it. You only live once, right?
With that in mind, I wanted to share some of the comments back to Frank's blog that I thought were interesting:
1:05 pmMarch 9, 2009
Curt wrote:
Private aviation results in 1.2 million American jobs, and a yearly economic impact of over $150 Billion. It is one technology area where we still are a world-leader, with Gulfstream and Cessna being prime manufacturers; foreign jets largely use U.S. made engines and cockpit avionics. It's a net export industry.
All a jet does is provide incredibly efficient transportation; in the right hands, used the right way, it is an extremely powerful tool in the furtherance of a prosperous economy. Only viewing the excesses of improper use by failed companies is a myopic and distorted view of a tool that can really make business fly.
1:48 pmMarch 9, 2009
Dave Stone wrote:
How ironic and sad that our captains of industry and commerce allow themselves to be tarnished by the lowest elements of our country, our elected politicians. The politicians who preen and primp before the cameras at hearings they've called to beat up on the private sector, then quietly take off in their transportation we pay for. This will continue until people with guts stand up to these petty tyrants.
2:10 pmMarch 9, 2009
DRW wrote:
Coming from the user of the world's largest business jet - Air Force One - it is hard to take these comments seriously. And President Obama is considering the purchase of a fleet of Presidential helicopters. A fleet of about 30 helicopters! I can understand one helicopter to use and one backup. I can even understand another backup for a total of three. What is the justification for about 30 helicopters to carry the President?
2:11 pmMarch 9, 2009
Jack wrote:
The CEO that takes a private jet to his golf outing, got to spend multiple additional hours at work being productive. A CEO's time is much more expensive than the savings he would get from flying commercial. Plus for each private jet, multiple people are employed for that time period around 3 employees for 1 passenger. Commercial flights will give about 8 employees for 300 passengers. You do the math.
And who flies a private jet from Washington to California nearly every week? That would be the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi. And that one is paid by TAX DOLLARS.
2:20 pmMarch 9, 2009
Kyle wrote:
As Curt wrote, don't just focus on the negative items you hear about. What you fail to hear about is how many private jets are used at the cost of the owners, to do volunteer flying for cancer patients, terminally ill patients and burn victims, to get them to various treatment facilities throughout the country that they would have never been able to get to had someone not offered the services of these planes. There are many times that these planes are used for good duties, productive business duties as well as those who sometimes use them in excess but that is the case for many things......
2:29 pmMarch 9, 2009
Peter wrote:
Why does Pelosi get a free pass on her private airplane at tax payer expense?
2:35 pmMarch 9, 2009
Tom wrote:
The new helicopter fleet was started by the Bush administration - and was to be delivered before the end of Bush's 2nd term. But, as is so common with government programs, it is past schedule and over budget.
2:41 pmMarch 9, 2009
Louis wrote:
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a private jet. What is wrong are people who abuse the privilege. If your company is doing poorly and you still insist on using the corporate jet instead of saving money, I would ask you why. If you are traveling to Washington to ask for money from the Federal government but you are traveling by private jet, I would ask you why. Private jets are a tool and some company executives travel by private jet for security purposes.
3:05 pmMarch 9, 2009
David wrote:
Nancy Pelosi has no problem using tax payers' money on a large private jet for her three day weekends in California. Please keep spending our children's money Nancy!
3:11 pmMarch 9, 2009
Dan wrote:
If the boards would govern the actions of executives correctly, and not just be rubber stamps lackeys of CEOs and their minions, we'd be ok here. Private companies should be able to do as they please, or at least as the board pleases. Either way, lots of sacred cows get shot during backlashes - even some that shouldn't. I just hope my company's CEO isn't wasting time with his shoes off in some security line at JFK. I need him to get out and line up some more financing for us!
3:19 pmMarch 9, 2009
Bill wrote:
I remember the glee that a fellow meditation retreatant expressed in 2003 when Mayor Daly bulldozed Meigs field. "I love seeing all those fat cats take a hit for a change," he said. I replied with a question: "What about the people who fuel those airplanes? How about the receptionist at the FBO? The ramp workers, the tower controllers, the mechanics, the sales staff, all the so-called little people who work there?" He was astonished. He said that never occurred to him. Indeed. Envy, animosity and opposition help no one. I work for fat cats. Almost everybody does. Am I ever envious? Sometimes. Do I want my fat cat to perish? Uh, that would be No.
3:41 pmMarch 9, 2009
Anonymous wrote:
As one of my employees so nicely put it "an hourly worker never wrote anyone a paycheck."
3:42 pmMarch 9, 2009
Net Jets Fan wrote:
There is a simple solution to all who don't want to fly commercial. Buy your own fractional interest in an airplane. Pay for it yourself, and no one will complain. When the shareholders or the taxpayers are footing the bill, then you are accountable to them. These new shares will stimulate the economy without the added taxpayer (or shareholder) expense.
4:15 pmMarch 9, 2009
private is the only way to travel wrote:
Unfortunately, I do not have the means to own my own jet, but I have flown private on numerous occasions and it is incredible. There is no way I would give up my private jet, the media and public be d*mned.
4:24 pmMarch 9, 2009
Valerian wrote:
Right on with this article. Obama should encourage CEO's to come to Washington in private jets (hopefully supersonic ones made in America) as long as they are not begging for bailout money. It's the incompetent banks that should come crashing down, not private jets. And bring back the guillotine - it worked for France.
4:43 pmMarch 9, 2009
down with the rich! wrote:
Congress and Obama is right. No one should ever fly private, EVER!! In fact, no one should FLY AT ALL. TAKE THE BUS!!! Greyhound is much cheaper and better for the environment than flying.
5:58 pmMarch 9, 2009
Jay wrote:
If your personal or corporate finances allow for the use of a private jet then as far as I'm concerned go mad. For a company struggling with finances or even to stay open that is another and corporate responsibility should be considered. The government and media have just hit on something that most people will never have access to and a milking it for all it's worth. As for companies who have cut back or eliminated private jets at their company for the public perception if nothing
7:03 pmMarch 9, 2009
ga peach wrote:
Gulfstream laying off workers, hurts me, it hurts my town, many businesses in my town depend on Gulfstream employees, (restaurants, grocery stores, banks, auto dealerships), We can complain about those rich CEO's and companies all we want, but truth be told they are the ones that stimulate economy, they buy the private jets we build, they build new homes, which employs a lot of workers to build. Just remember the next time you bash a company for owning nice homes, think about the people that built it, the stores that sold the material, when you bash someone for owning a private jet, think of me and my family and my town, and remember we benefit from building it.
8:12 pmMarch 9, 2009
FL Crush wrote:
It does not stop with the manufacturers. That industry employs pilots, private flight attendants, mechanics, catering companies, limo services, flight coordinators, dispatchers, FBO personnel, aircraft sales agencies, aircraft management firms and so on. I'm sure I'm leaving many out but you get the picture. 99% of these individuals will enjoy the luxury of their own private flight.
Believe me, the CEO's will survive if they cannot fly private anymore. But will the groups I mentioned be able to survive
12:16 amMarch 10, 2009
A pilot's Brother wrote:
As the brother of a Corporate Pilot I find the uproar about companies using corporate jets ridiculous. What difference does it make whether it is a corporate executive using a jet for transportation, which is most likely being paid for by the company who won or leases the aircraft or the president or any member of government flying all over the world at the expense of the taxpaying public. Which scenario has the most negative impact on our economy? Something to think about I'd say.
12:49 amMarch 10, 2009
MichaelKarvan wrote:
I (me) ruled in favor of flying private, my CEO (me) gave me the okay, my VP (me) gave me the green light, my board (me) ruled in favor, my accountant (me) said it is a great write off, and my conscious (me again) said it was stupid to listen to whiners griping about wealthy people flying private. I worked for my money, my cars, my homes, my shit and I do what I want with it and WTF, don't we as free and opportunistic people get to do what you want in this country... as long as you earn it you can have it. Now all you bitchers go fly a kite.
8:37 amMarch 10, 2009
Sonya Beckley wrote:
I'm glad someone is telling this side of the story. Business aviation is an important part of the economy and most companies that have them pay for them without government bailout money. Anyone at our company can be on the jet if there is a legitimate business reason for it. And we're all thankful for the workers who made them and maintain them to keep us safe.
6:01 pmMarch 10, 2009
jetguy wrote:
You will take my jet from my cold, dead hands!!!!
4:41 pmMarch 12, 2009
priscilla wrote:
There is nothing wrong w/ owning/operating a private jet as long as your palms are not turned upward looking for a handout/bailout.
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